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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: OP tanks for Sexton Regiments Reply with quote

hello to you from 2008, bleary eyed as I am. I guess those in the UK have about 45 minutes to catch up and those in the US hours to go. gotta say it don't look any different so stay in 2007 that way you won't have to put up with the trauma of seeing in a new year Very Happy

anyway apologies to those who have seen this elsewhere but I would like to know if the two Sexton regiments in the Guards & 11th Armoured Div's used Shermans or Rams as their OP tanks.

as usual any help greatly appreciated.

Happy New Year

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon, Only the Canadians used the Rams as OP, however I have an S+S Ram for my Brits, it just looks so nice Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan

thanks, I thought as much. I am in the same dilemma, being doing a clean up over the last week and found one intact so I thought I would ask. I might just stow it up & stick a figure in the hatch and use it anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was reading "The Black Bull" by Patrick Delaforce.

He was a troop leder in the 11th Armoured's artillery regiment. I don't recall him specifically mentioning models of OP tanks but one of the pictures shows a Cromwell as an OP tank.

(I'm not at home and typing from memory, but when I find the book I'll update.)

Happy new year!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I prefaced my previous post. Well I was confused and mostly wrong.

The photo is off the recon regiment Northants Yoemanry and not the RHA Ayershire Yoemanry.

The author, an FOO, mentioned spending his birthday 'in his sherman.'

He did mention later on that in February '45 G battery replaced their Sherman's with Cromwells. (around the same time Comets were introduced) Don't know if all batteries replaced their Shermans.

So, some Cromwells were OP tanks in the 11th Armoured at the end of the war but it would be Shermans during Epsom/Goodwood/Bluecoat/Market-Garden

Sorry for the misinformation
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7th Armd Div had Cromwells and Shermans as OP as early as Villers Bocage, there are pics of both types destroyed there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad served with the 90th Field Regiment during WWII - they went onto Sextons prior to D-Day.

The 90th had Shermans as TL/OP tanks while in North West Europe.

Here is an 'artists' impression of the OP tanks for 'A' Troop (Aurora) and 'D' Troop (Devils Delight) as they appeared in Brussels - September '44.

Just to muddy the water - my dad never referred to the Sexton as a 'Sexton' - they knew them as Rams!




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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: 86th Field Regiment had Sherman OPs as well Reply with quote

As it happens, Robert Kiln's excellent D-Day to Arnhem: With the Hertfordshire's Gunners showed up in my interlibrary loan bag this morning. Like Chris's dad's regiment, the 86th deployed Sextons with Sherman OPs. Kiln never refers to the Sextons as anything other than "guns," "SPs," or -- at most -- "25-pounder SPs."

I hope that helps.

Best regards,

Chris

P.S. None of the TL/OP Shermans in Kiln's troop seemed to sport names -- Kiln's tank sported only an 'X' on the front face of the driver's station and '1147' on the front face of the wireless operator's station.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks gents

luckily my extra Cromwell Combat Ready Shermans didn't sell so I can use them as Op's.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The names given to British SP guns, with the exception of the Priest, appear to be post-war additions, but as long as we all know what we're talking about it saves confusion doesn't it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The names given to British SP guns, with the exception of the Priest, appear to be post-war additions, but as long as we all know what we're talking about it saves confusion doesn't it.


Alan - surely the 'Bishop' pre dates the Priest? Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the ram rod? Have I misread your post?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking info Chris. Ta mate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you found it of use.

These are the 'Sexton' names that I know of - still sourcing the remainder. Painted in quite large letters on the upper side of the armour plate - both sides.

A Troop
ATTACKER (hit shortly after D Day and replaced by ATTACKER II)
AUGUSTA
AJAX
ACHILLES
APOLLO - Signals carrier
AURORA - OP Sherman

B Troop
BEAU BRUMMEL
BEAU FIGHTER
BEAU GESTE

C Troop
CHALLENGER

D Troop
DREADNOUGHT
DEVILS DELIGHT - OP Sherman

E Troop
EXCALIBUR
ENDURANCE
EXTERMINATOR

F Troop
FEE
FI
FO
FUM





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris, The Priest was the only wartime name, all the others, including the Bishop, are post-war. The list and picture are brilliant.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris

many thanks, those photo's and list are fantastic

Simon
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