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Painting Guide - Panzer Yellow or 'How to Dunkelgelb'
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good tutorial, will have to try it as Dunkelgelb is always a colour i've had problems mastering

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderful timing and a great tutorial - I had just undercoated a panther and 250/1 for my first attempt at this colour. fortunatley have the Vallejo paints to hand, will have to improvise on the undercoats.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: German Yellow Reply with quote

Thanks for an excellent articel. Which colours do you you use for the green and brown camo's?

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: German Yellow Reply with quote

Petracelli wrote:
Thanks for an excellent articel. Which colours do you you use for the green and brown camo's?

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Phil


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic job, very uesful. This is what makes this forum so great.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Petracelli wonders what colours would be used for the brown and green disruptive colours used over the Dark yellow, if they were being used.

I take it the layering techniques are used partially (besides the advantages of having pre shaded the recesses in the model) because Vallejo paints are not opaque? I don't know as I tend to blast my kits with tamiya acrylics from an airbrush, and haven't used Vallejo (gasp).
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: German Yellow Reply with quote

Hi

Sorry about that, yes did mean the camo on the AFV's, as I use watered down vajello's but was just curious as to whihc colours you use and how as your work is very impressive.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C_Collins wrote:
I think Petracelli wonders what colours would be used for the brown and green disruptive colours used over the Dark yellow, if they were being used.

I take it the layering techniques are used partially (besides the advantages of having pre shaded the recesses in the model) because Vallejo paints are not opaque? I don't know as I tend to blast my kits with tamiya acrylics from an airbrush, and haven't used Vallejo (gasp).


Well, it depends. If you prime/base the vehicle in black, you might wanna use a more covering paint on top of it. I use Vallejo extensively, and have become to dislike black undercoat for vehicles. So in the case of dunkelgelb/German dark yellow I like to prime the kit with primer red colour, was it Hull Red in the vallejo range? Anyways, it's a very dark brownish red. Or if one worries about the paint rubbing off, then use a gray spray primer, and and paint the red over that. Then use the dark yellows pretty much in similar way as this tutorial.

I have used Vallejo's Dark Yellow, and as many people have complained it seems a bit greenish, a common feature with other paint ranges. I hear Tamiya has modified their colour closer to what V suggests here in the tutorial.

Oh and a tip I read someplace: if the dark yellow looks to have too greenish tint, mix some red to it and it should go away. Haven't tried that one out yet.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: German Yellow Reply with quote

Petracelli wrote:
Hi

Sorry about that, yes did mean the camo on the AFV's, as I use watered down vajello's but was just curious as to whihc colours you use and how as your work is very impressive.

regards

Phil


Hi Phil,

I will post some colours when i get home from work mate.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: German Yellow Reply with quote

Thanks for your help V, much appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For green camo I use - Vallejo Extra Dark Green 896

For the red/brown camo Im still looking for a colour that I like the look off to be honest. Vallejo 'Red Leather' and 'Saddle Brown' come close but still dont do it for me...

Hence why you see most of my vehicles sporting a green only camo pattern... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: German Yellow Reply with quote

Hi

Thanks for that, do you mix the 896 with water to give it an opaque finish or do you use it naturally?

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: German Yellow Reply with quote

Petracelli wrote:
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Thanks for that, do you mix the 896 with water to give it an opaque finish or do you use it naturally?

cheers
Phil


I just slap it on, straight from the pot with an old crappy brush. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: German Yellow Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing that up Juha.

I find that tamiya covers well, and dries to a true flat finish (from an airbrush), BUT its a pig to brush paint with (it will not drybrush without clumping) and its not the most resilliant of finishes as it tends to go glossy and wear off after some handling.


I might have to give Vallejo a go.
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