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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Secret Project exposed! (modular system - long - pic heavy) Reply with quote

I first planned to keep this a secret untill I had the first batch painted and prepped, but I can't keep this to myself anymore.

When I saw the modular sewer pieces I remembered a few sketches I made and my try outs (and failures) through the years to make something similar. I quickly put those away again as I saw no way to get busy casting or any other method.

But I had my Eureka moment when I saw my young nephew play with his wooden blocks, and everything fell in place ....... in this case quite literally!

What am I rambling about?

Most of you have seen the modular sewer, or played games like Space Hulk or D&D with floorplans, so keep that thought into your head, as I have been making my way towards a fully modular underground (bunker) system suitable for 20-28mm figs.

<cue slide 1>


My original idea involved a cartload of free plasticcard i got. This turned out to be rather unstable, combined with my inability to cut straight lines, and a dead end.

The basic idea was good though, and I had some left over 6mm MDF from another project, so desided to do a small test



With a whopping 20cm high wall this seems rediculously over the top, I know, but it gave me the 10cm x 10cm mantra so to speak. Everything I make for this will be based on 10cm x 10cm squares, or derivates of that like the 20x10 tile with the 20cm high wall (which is for a future U boat pen btw). The fig on the left is a 28mm model (ok, more like 32, its a GW Imperial Guard Psyker) and the two on the right a 20mm TQD zombies.

Ok, 20 is a bit high, so how would 10cm tall pieces do, and how do I represent corners? Well....



Stable, and tough,and fully modular. Ok, here and there there might be a small crack in between pieces but noboby is perfect.

Using the pieces I had made last week I was ready to assemble them into this:



and with some swapping of parts this:



I decided the big 20cm tall pieces would be suitable only for big aircraft hangars, V-2 rocket bunkers and U boat pens and the 10cm pieces for your everyday storage rooms and warehouses.

This left me with making a stack of 5cm tall pieces, and boy, my local lumberyard must have been happy with that order (NT)



A quick test to see how everything fits, and from now on I started to give every wall some support. Due to the way it is built most don't need it, but it does help with stacking them for storage (more about that later) and ensures most rooms have a space wide enough for a acces door.

With the components then available to me I started building more and more pieces, untill today, I ended up with enough pieces to assemble this:



using just these components:


i have made various sketches to see what kind or pieces I would have to make extra, but so far all the ones I made can be formed to create the ideas I have in my hand which makes me rather happy. This means I'm on the right track and all I need to do is create quite a few more parts of the basic set to be able to create everything I want.

So far "all" I have is this:


Which I stacked for fun to see how much room it would use up in my storage cabinets (though the 20cm wall pieces are missing in this one)


(seeing this pic gave me quite a few extra ideas like recreating the derelict and unfinished flats I saw in Beirut or in Mogadishu (for the people who saw Black Hawk Down or the modular Tank Factory I once designed for Warhammer 40K)

The basic plan I have at the moment is to make enough bits to give me a level playingfield of about 1 square meter including 1 U boat pen, paint and finish that, and then create more bits.

Everything will be grey (like a bunker i mean) and the floor will have the idea of tiles (25mm squares) and a lot of the walls will have magnets imbedded in them so I can put up non permanent posters, videocamera's, sentry guns, banners and god know what, easily adapting the surroundings to whatever game I will be playing. Scenery will be loose and placable anywhere. A lot of that will be bought, but I am working on a few pieces in plastticcard that possibly will be reproduced in resin at some later date. Doors are of a later concern, as I can either use my router of print out some PDF's and laminate those to thick card on a base.

What u see now is the result of starting this idea 2 weeks ago and just about 15 euro's worth of 6mm MDF, and I'm very happy with it.

Is this everybody's cup of tea? of course not. The dungeons I saw had tiled floors and walls etc (but those cost a few 100 for tha amount fo space I'm covering now) and for the do-it-yourself Hirst arts stuff you need to buy the moulds and the plaster and it is still fragile (in these quantaties anyway)

But for the people who want to roleplay with their models, or play games like Bunkerstorm, or , like me, want to recreate games like Return to Castle Wolfenstein on their dinnertable, this is a good, affordable way forward. Put in a few players and let loose the zombies or automated killing machines. or add a Predator or 2, who knows? Or use it as a secret facilty defended by the Germans, or even as Hitlers underground bunker in Berlin. Your mind, your idea, just go for it.

Well, enjoy lads, tell me what u think of it, good or bad, give it a shot, I'm always happy with feedback. If you have any questions, do feel free to ask.

Johan
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is one of the most promising terrain projects after Alcal's Juno beach attempts, but shouldn't you be focusing on finishing all the other WIP stuff you must have lying around by now? :Smile

Ok, seriously, it looks fantastic! Surprised It's flexibility at it's peak, and yet every block can be customized and be made unique to suit your every wimp or desire! I love it!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Real, all of my current WIP projects (the Springers, Goliaths, 1946 stuff and the floatplane) are all related and meant to be used with this big monster of a project Wink

And I'm quite proud of it Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be proud! That has some incredible potential, and it looks like its nearly indestructible to boot. Keep at it, I want to see how you do the rest of it (interiors, etc)

You clever/talented guys really help the rest of us normal guys along. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said elsewhere: VERY nice work Johan!
And certainly a hell of a lot sturdier than what I'm building...

Now how about producing a list of parts used and their sizes so other folks here can start harassing their local lumberyards.... Wink


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah its no longer secret ... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still great! What about using some of that textured spray paint on the walls for added releif?

The stack does indeed look splenid and reminds me of that Grain elevator/Caravan made by Troop of Shrew two years ago:O)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn it Johan...

Now they know where the UberSoldats will be bred! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the V2 launch facility, and the secret U boat, the waterplane project, the casino, hell, there might even be room inthere for Matt's brothel.......


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks very ingenious indeed, should be loads of fun to build and play.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johan, you forgot the walker garage.....

Oops, I shouldn't have said that, should I? Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damned insomnia.

Ok, here is one just to show off, a try out for a bigger level without the U boat bunker.....100 x 120 cm's setup with room for your dice and tea..... i could use a cup right now.......



Black is 5cm tall (regular level) white is 10cm tall (storage and whatever) red is the entry point. I used colour to highlight the parts for visibility purposes.

The entry point block is one I will see myself making quite a few more of, as I have to beat you at Space Hulk , mr Modhail aka Erik ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I LOVE THAT... IT'S GREAT AND BLOODY INVENTIVE.

THANKS FOR THE IDEA.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunbird wrote:
The entry point block is one I will see myself making quite a few more of, as I have to beat you at Space Hulk , mr Modhail aka Erik ;)


And how exactly will that little block help you do that?? Rolling Eyes
(unless you plan to chuck them at my face... Shocked )

And on that cheerfull note, I'm currently working out in what corridors, and where, to place slots for doors... Bloody boring work, poring over each and every Space Hulk map I can find and noting down the corridor size and place of every door I find.... Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check this book mate ..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitlers-U-boat-Fortresses-Randolph-Bradham/dp/1592286801/ref=sr_1_2/203-6068946-5415153?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175114832&sr=8-2
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