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Duane
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Alcal posted this a while ago i spent sometime trying to find rubberized horse hair here in the US with not much luck, but I wish some could find it here.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stunning as always. Cool

The closest thing I have found to rubberised horsehair in the States is 'natural' furnace filter material. Its relatively inexpensive, but it is blue, so requires painting before any flock is glued to it. I get it at Wally World, a big piece (about 3' x 2' or so) was about 3-4 bucks IIRC.

I think its about an inch thick. I havent tried layering it yet for varying thincknesses, but I'll have to have a go and see what happens. It has a plastic netting on it to help hold its shape but thats easily peeled off. I think its made of some manner of animal hair, but I have no idea what sort of beastie it came from.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used the natural furnace filters for years and they do resemble the rubberized horse hair. I suspect that it is more rigid than the horse hair, but it does tear into required sizes and can be layered. I use natural twigs and drill holes in the ends into which I put a length of bamboo skewer onto which goes the filter material. For smaller and denser trees I use big nails, glued onto a base. I sometimes model a trunk effect at the exposed botom with Das clay and then paint. The skewer the filter layers (3-4) on top. Brush on PVA and then flock.

Works well.

Another product is ornamental pool filter material. Again a fibrous substance that comes in huge rolls - purchase at garden centres that have pool sections - purchase by the foot. I have not tried this yet but it seems good.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always got my rubberised horse hair for free from upholstry shops , as it was used in the fifties and early sixties to stuff car seats and chairs.

Another alternative is coconut fibre.

I normaly get my twigs from privit hedges, attach to a base then use wood glue to attach the horse hair, detail base than pour a mix of heki or woodland scenics flock into a container, than use adhesive spray on the rubberised horse hair and toss on the flock while holding the tree upside down, after its dry i use hairspray as a fixative.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
as reported in my reply of nov. 14th in this section, some images of hedge obtained with
cardbox, "canapa" (Hemp), flock and white glue.
The "experiment" seem to be positive. The same hedge seem to be able for Europe and Vietnam. The cost is very low.
Hope you like & useful
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks as effective as anything ive seen your onto a winner.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using this thread as reference for making my own hedges and trees. I'd like to put one question to you Al, about ripping the horsehair in two: do you just rip the sheet in two, so you will have two 0.5" thick sheets with one flat surface and one rough surface? And then cut these, and apply in layers for the hedges as well as trees?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Juha

yeh thats how i do it but at the end of your apraisal you note i cut the horse hair but again i actually wrip it to shape even then.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks Al! I will soon be able to try this out myself. Just need to paint and flock the bases first.
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