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Muskateer Gripweed
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: WW2 British tank knicknames? How? Reply with quote

Hi everyone! First post here, been lurking about for a while. This seems like the crowd that may answer a burning question I've had for about 2 years now.

Anyone know the rhyme or reason to the British method of naming individual tanks?

I heard all tanks in B Squadron had 'B' names (Balderdash, Black Adder)
and so on.

Then I heard that some squadrons would pick a theme i.e. birds (Vulture, Kestrel)

Then I heard it was up to the tank commander.

Also, was there a method of numbering tanks in a squadron similar to the Germans. I've seen a triangle with a small number 2 in it (A squadron, 2nd troop? I don't know.) Any help is appreciated.

BTW, I'm currently modeling the 11th Armoured but am keeping the names/squadrons generic since I'll change divisions/regiments flashes with my nifty laser printed decal sheets.

thanks all!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: WW2 British tank knicknames? How? Reply with quote

shadrach wrote:
Hi everyone! First post here, been lurking about for a while. This seems like the crowd that may answer a burning question I've had for about 2 years now.

Anyone know the rhyme or reason to the British method of naming individual tanks?

I heard all tanks in B Squadron had 'B' names (Balderdash, Black Adder)
and so on.

Then I heard that some squadrons would pick a theme i.e. birds (Vulture, Kestrel)

Then I heard it was up to the tank commander.

Also, was there a method of numbering tanks in a squadron similar to the Germans. I've seen a triangle with a small number 2 in it (A squadron, 2nd troop? I don't know.) Any help is appreciated.

BTW, I'm currently modeling the 11th Armoured but am keeping the names/squadrons generic since I'll change divisions/regiments flashes with my nifty laser printed decal sheets.

thanks all!


The triangle marking you mentioned is a squadron [Sqn](company) marking.
HQ used a diamond
A Sqn a triangle
B Sqn a square
C Sqn a circle

Colour depended upon seniority in a regt/brigade. Seniority was very much organised by the army list.

1st regt (btn) used red, 2nd yellow, 3rd blue. Brigade HQ white.

There were some variations in colour & shape to sqn especially early in the war, but the above is the most usual/generic version.

Names were more varied (being essentially unofficial or rather semi-official).
The names beginning with A for A sqn was used by some units, however the multi-btn Royal Tank Regt (RTR) had a system based i=on the btn's number so that 4RTR had names beginning with D, 7RTR with G.
IIRC the Guards used either famous battles or London place names (I forget which) or had different systems for different units.

The number sometimes seen within the Sqn marking was IIRC a troop marking but was far from universal.

There were other markings that determined a unit too.
HTH,
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info.

I wasn't aware of the RTR battalion number/corresponding letter system.

It's seems so willy-nilly that I could name them anything (or better yet --nothing at all)

I like the idea of naming tanks, it's one of the quirks of the British Army and gives life to the kits.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contemporary Queen's Dragoon Guards have kept the practice of naming tanks after a word that corresponds with the Squadron letter (A, B, C etc).

My DS at Junior Div was a favourate of The Sun for a few days following the events of his Stag Night in a certain officer's mess. Thus, on taking command of C Sqn, the Sqn HQ tanks were called Cherry (for that was indeed the stripper's name), Cream (I think that you're getting the idea), the name of the third one escapes my memory...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: WW2 British tank knicknames? How? Reply with quote

Neil gives good reply doesn't he!
well done that man!

Panzer21 wrote:

The triangle marking you mentioned is a squadron [Sqn](company) marking.
HQ used a diamond
A Sqn a triangle
B Sqn a square
C Sqn a circle

Colour depended upon seniority in a regt/brigade. Seniority was very much organised by the army list.

1st regt (btn) used red, 2nd yellow, 3rd blue. Brigade HQ white.


and the motor rifle battalion within the brigade would use green markings
HQ used a green diamond
A Sqn a green triangle
B Sqn a green square
C Sqn a green circle

my sources also indicate that un-brigaded units (thats to say tank units not belonging to a brigade, also used white turret markings)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: WW2 British tank knicknames? How? Reply with quote

panzerfaust200 wrote:
Neil gives good reply doesn't he!
well done that man!

Panzer21 wrote:

The triangle marking you mentioned is a squadron [Sqn](company) marking.
HQ used a diamond
A Sqn a triangle
B Sqn a square
C Sqn a circle

Colour depended upon seniority in a regt/brigade. Seniority was very much organised by the army list.

1st regt (btn) used red, 2nd yellow, 3rd blue. Brigade HQ white.


and the motor rifle battalion within the brigade would use green markings
HQ used a green diamond
A Sqn a green triangle
B Sqn a green square
C Sqn a green circle

my sources also indicate that un-brigaded units (thats to say tank units not belonging to a brigade, also used white turret markings)

rob. Very Happy


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